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Ok, this just sucks ass.

Post: # 132834Post |3lack|ce
Sun Dec 06, 2009 12:22 am

I've been holding off on posting this story because of the insanity involved. However, my faith in human nature is still intact, just swayed to the 'self-centered asshole' side in lieu of the 'good caring human being' side.

The headline: Woman robbed after getting killed in hit-n-run accident
Link: http://www.kltv.com/Global/story.asp?S=11624106

Yep, you read that headline right. A car hit this lady, killing her, and knocking some money from her hand in the accident. The car that killed her kept on going. Two men happened onto the scene, took the money, and left.

WTF WORLD? I mean FUCK! GAWD I AM PISSED ABOUT THIS! (and from the look of the comments section on this story most of Podunk and the rest of Texas is too.)

Now here's your story exerpt.
Friends and co-workers knew Victoria Miles as, simply, Tori. Everyday, you could find her working behind the counter inside the Kidd Jones Valero, across the street from Tanglewood Center on East Loop 323.

Tori left the store to make a routine bank run, Thursday afternoon. She crossed six lanes of traffic, headed to Regions Bank to make change for the store.

She was standing on the raised median, when she was struck by a black, Chevy pick-up, driven by an alleged drunk driver. The money in her hands went flying into the air. The truck kept going.

Johnny Gilstrap, who works at the Super Lube next door said he and his coworkers saw what happened and ran to the median to help Tori. Johnny joined other Valero employees, picking up, staying by Tori's side.

But Johnny said he noticed two men get out of a maroon car - it looked liked a Chevrolet Impala - scoop up some cash, and take off.

"I'm sure they didn't know she'd been run over," he said. "They just saw the money flying around and didn't know where it was coming from."

It added more insult to a horribly painful, and fatal injury.

"I wanted to choke them," said Thelma Hunt, who had worked with Tori for two years at the store.

Within minutes, Tyler Police tracked down the busted up, black pick-up truck. Gerald Bourque, 45, of Big Sandy was arrested on-site. As for the money grabbers, police say, technically, it is theft.

"That money belongs to the business," said Officer Don Martin, the public information officer with the Tyler Police Department. Martin said it's disheartening. "If they want to contact us and say, 'Hey, we just didn't realize,' or, 'We didn't know what to do with it. We're sorry.' We would look at that and go from there."

Right now, there are no suspects, but the incident is still under investigation.

"If they have any kind of heart at all, they would at least bring the money back," said Gilstrap.
I now have zero faith in mankind. :angry1: Merry Fucking Christmas.


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Post: # 132835Post Egaladeist
Sun Dec 06, 2009 12:43 am

I think a lot of this has to do with the way we deal with things today...

people were told if we just started to ' talk our problems out ', take strap out of the schools, tell parents not to use corporal punishment ( spankings ), and threaten everyone with incarceration if they even utter a threat to another, we'd all live in a better world...

ya right...

the world is more violent, the kids are 100 times more disrespectful, the schools are over-run with thugs and gangs, etc...

more peaceful my ass...

if those guys did that 40 years ago they'd have the crap beaten out of them long before the police ever found them...

it may seem odd...but...back in the day when a complete stranger could kick your butt for stepping out of line...the world we lived in...

was actually safer.
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Post: # 132839Post Kwiep
Mon Dec 07, 2009 1:33 am

I'm not entirely sure, but I believe here in the netherlands it's a criminal offence to walk away from a badly injured person without helping. I'm not sure if it's the same for dead people or people that are "going to get hurt", so to speak. Then again only doctors can tell if someone's dead.

If you're in the military, law enforcement or medical profession it is an offence for sure.

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Mon Dec 07, 2009 2:55 am

Good to see you Kwiep!
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Mon Dec 07, 2009 3:45 pm

Kwiep wrote:I'm not entirely sure, but I believe here in the netherlands it's a criminal offence to walk away from a badly injured person without helping. I'm not sure if it's the same for dead people or people that are "going to get hurt", so to speak. Then again only doctors can tell if someone's dead.

If you're in the military, law enforcement or medical profession it is an offence for sure.

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Don't want to hijack your threat here, but yeah I decided I ought to check up on you guys at least once before 2010 ;) Remembered my password and all, wich kind of suprised me...

It's called the Good Samaritan Law but it is too loose when it comes to protecting people who respond to an incident from being sued in court. So a lot of people will turn away fearing the consequences of trying to do good only to end up themselves in a court of law...thanks to litigation and smart arsed lawyers who see a buck everywhere they look.

Common decency has eroded over the years and is almost as extinct as common sense... :(
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Post: # 132874Post |3lack|ce
Tue Dec 08, 2009 9:40 pm

Here in Texas it's law as well - same moniker "Good Samaritan Law". Official charge is "Failure to stop and render aid" - a misdemeanor carrying a fine smaller than that of most parking tickets. It was adopted here to protect people attempting to help accident victims from lawsuits as well.

Now for an update - Neither of the two morons who grabbed the cash have come forward. All of Tyler is buzzing about it still, but it's not received much air on the news since the original story and the one follow-up. Way over here in Podunk, it seems that the story's had an effect as well. People are going out of their way to be especially nice, polite, and courteous to one another - of course this could also be the Christmas season too. We'll see on 12/26.

Me, I'm still furious.
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Wed Dec 09, 2009 11:34 am

I remember reading something about the 'Good Samaritan' law in the States.

Something like a guy collapsed with a heart attack and someone went to help he gave CPR etc but the man died.
The family of the dead man then successfully sued the good Samaritan because he wasn't qualified to preform first aid and was complicit in the death.

It might be an urban myth but things like that out people off helping.

And yes there are a lot of shitty people in the world. Note the number of charity boxes that get nicked in the UK.
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Post: # 132921Post MistyPaws
Fri Dec 11, 2009 10:07 pm

There are some kind people out there it just does not get reported as much as vile acts, the Pride of Britain awards are particularly humbling, strangers rescuing each other and there are some outstanding acts of bravery.

Unfortunately, the media seems to concentrate on doom and gloom, however the article posted by |3lack|ce is disturbing. Somtimes I can't read the full article like that one as its too upsetting, and this story below made me cry a few times, it's extremely sad but hopefully mum and daughter are together and at peace.


http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/ne ... -edge.html

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... ghter.html
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Post: # 132922Post |3lack|ce
Fri Dec 11, 2009 11:25 pm

There have been no updates to this story since 12/7, so I cannot say one way or the other if either of the two thieving bastards were caught. I have contacted the reporter who originally did the story via email and will post up his responses (if any) in this thread.
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Post: # 132965Post Kwiep
Tue Dec 15, 2009 12:11 pm

Aspman wrote:Something like a guy collapsed with a heart attack and someone went to help he gave CPR etc but the man died.
The family of the dead man then successfully sued the good Samaritan because he wasn't qualified to preform first aid and was complicit in the death.
I'll refrain from immediatly going all berserk on the justicial (sp?) system, but he must have been seriously fucking up then. Like starting CPR when the guy was still alive, wich would have been stupid and possibly deadly. If a guy doesn't breath or has no pulse (probably both) then he's pretty much dead. You can't go wrong from there, even if you just saw CPR in the movies. But if he still has both...

I think for alot of people it's not so much the fear of being sued as it is the fear to do more harm then good due to a lack of first-aid training.

Obviously that's not the case for |ce's article.
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Post: # 132969Post Aspman
Tue Dec 15, 2009 5:06 pm

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldne ... ckage.html

Different story but similar idea and there is plenty of evidence that this is true.
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Post: # 132971Post Kwiep
Tue Dec 15, 2009 5:36 pm

In the netherlands there are quite a few stories in wich, after a car crash, a bystander (or whoever) offers the victim a seat in their own car. When the emergency services arrive and the victim complains about pain in the neck or back (wich after a car crash is like what... always?) they fixate the back and neck of the victim and cut out the roof of the car to get the victim out.

The "roof damage" is not insured though as that car wasn't actually in the crash. And the person didn't have to offer the victim a seat. So...
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