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Medieval II Total War

Post: # 87287Post |3lack|ce
Sat Sep 29, 2007 4:54 am

Ok, after buying this load of crap earlier today at Wal Mart...and spending the ENTIRE effing evening trying to install and successfully run it, I must admit that | am completely stumped.

[sortaquote - it ain't exact] Due to an Unspecified Error, Medieval II must now close.[/sortaquote]

*ROAR*

Ok, checked the *various and numerous* medieval forums out there and discovered that many, many players have suffered from this issue - and there's been many different fixes, ranging from fully patching to full system updates to uninstall/reinstall/fully patch the game. None have worked.

There is only *one* I have yet to try and that comes after I've posted this DON'T BUY THIS GD TIMEWASTING PILE OF CRAP - warning - least until I can get it running and properly review it at least...

the next fix - uninstall the game, manually remove any registry entries referring to medieval, CA(their designers, creative assembly), etc, fully update the system (easy enough, I've even reflashed the GD dvd drives tonight so I can honestly say the WHOLE BOX is up to date now.), then reinstall. Wish me luck - regedit here I come...then another wonderful hour of waiting on the damned cd's to install.

This steaming pile of dog poo better be worth it, I've had less trouble configuring networks...*snarl*

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[edit] Hrm... curiouser and curiouser - AFTER I uninstalled I went in to delete the SEGA file leftovers...and found a file called system.log *ponder* I opens it and here's what I sees:
22:48:25.218 [system.rpt] [always] CPU: SSE2
22:48:25.218 [system.rpt] [always] ==== system log start, build date: Jun 25 2007 version bld-medieval2-update2.1-30 (43169) ===
22:48:25.218 [system.io] [always] mounted pack packs/data_0.pack
22:48:25.218 [system.io] [always] mounted pack packs/data_1.pack
22:48:25.234 [system.io] [always] mounted pack packs/data_2.pack
22:48:25.234 [system.io] [always] mounted pack packs/data_3.pack
22:48:25.234 [system.io] [always] mounted pack packs/data_4.pack
22:48:25.234 [system.io] [always] mounted pack packs/localized.pack
22:48:25.250 [system.io] [warning] open: preferences/player.txt is missing
22:48:25.250 [system.io] [warning] open: preferences/keys.dat is missing
22:48:25.250 [system.io] [warning] open: preferences/keys.dat is missing
22:48:27.453 [system.rpt] [error] Medieval 2: Total War encountered an unspecified error and will now exit.
Now, YOU tell ME please. I bought the damned cd today. I installed it properly and according to THEIR BLOODY INSTRUCTIONS. WTF?

I'm still gonna try that registry fix.[/edit]


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Post: # 87288Post Egaladeist
Sat Sep 29, 2007 5:12 am

Don't know if this'll help Ice but...I did some Googling and came across this...
NOTE: Many people have had problems installing this patch and M2TW not working. I recommend that you uninstall M2TW, go to where you installed it, delete the SEGA folder (or the Medieval 2 Total War folder if you have another game in the SEGA folder) then reinstall. Then install Patch 1.2 straight on top. It has all patch 1.1 has and more. So there is no need to install patch 1.1 again.
Now, pay close attention to this bit, or your game will crash every time you go ... If you don't, you will get an unspecified error every time
They're not kidding, delete them. If you don't, you will get an unspecified error every time you go into a battle and CTD.
http://rtw.heavengames.com/cgi-bin/foru ... 9,5829,,10
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Post: # 87289Post |3lack|ce
Sat Sep 29, 2007 5:30 am

did that. spent a lot of times in heavengames among other sites this evening.

btw that cleaninstall with clean registry didn't work either, giving me the same error log. Time to get creative and dirty.

first I'll attempt to extract the missing files from the cd if they're extractable.

Then I'll copy both cd's onto the hard drive and try installing that way - immediately patching thereafter.

Wish me luck.
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Post: # 87296Post |3lack|ce
Sat Sep 29, 2007 7:27 am

Ok, update -

It's bloody 1:30 am and I've still not gotten the damned game to work. I have contacted Sega tech support via their 'ask a question' submission, including detailed info on all steps I've taken, plus a copy of my dxdiag report...interesting reading, if yas wanna see I'll post up, I love bragging on last year's Godsystem.

In the interim, here I sit with a 40 dollar CD case and some useless pieces of plastic inside. Rest assured I WILL get satisfaction on this, and all of this WILL be taken into account during my review...this IS a game review, remember? ;-)
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Post: # 87410Post Dont_say_go
Sun Sep 30, 2007 10:08 pm

|3lack|ce wrote:Ok, update -

It's bloody 1:30 am and I've still not gotten the damned game to work. I have contacted Sega tech support via their 'ask a question' submission, including detailed info on all steps I've taken, plus a copy of my dxdiag report...interesting reading, if yas wanna see I'll post up, I love bragging on last year's Godsystem.

In the interim, here I sit with a 40 dollar CD case and some useless pieces of plastic inside. Rest assured I WILL get satisfaction on this, and all of this WILL be taken into account during my review...this IS a game review, remember? ;-)
You'll prolly bust a nut from satisfaction just as soon as you load the game through the first time. I have never had that sort of problem and if I ever did I would have ran as fast as I could back to the store I bought it from and returned it with threats of fire, chaos and death.

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Post: # 87495Post Harbinger
Tue Oct 02, 2007 4:15 am

Ugh. I wish you luck on that. I had game problems like that a few months back. After I finally got it to work from hours of researching and creative work-arounds, and patching--I finally resolved to quit after I admitted the game was just F****D and there was no possible way to stablize it if there were more than X things occuring at once! gah!!!

But don't be discouraged, lol.
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Post: # 87502Post |3lack|ce
Tue Oct 02, 2007 6:17 am

Still hanging in there - and waiting patiently for feedback from Sega tech support via their online submission system. If no action has been taken on my issue by 11-ish tomorrow am they're getting one very nasty phonecall from one quite pissed off texan.
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Post: # 87629Post |3lack|ce
Wed Oct 03, 2007 11:39 am

So they wait 4 days and I post a 'has anyone even bothered reading this issue yet?' post - and get this sent this morning:
Dear |ce,

Thank you for contacting SEGA Europe.

Unfortunately SEGA Europe supports European territories only. Please contact SEGA of America for assistance with your query here: http://www.sega.com/support/support.php ... rt_contact

Best regards,

Steve Thompson
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www.sega.co.uk
Gee. This is the tech support site the Game's link sends me to. Does it truly matter that it's European, or is it really that Mr. Thompson is so inept at his position that he must pass the buck?

So now we're back to square 1.

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Wed Oct 03, 2007 11:44 am

You'd have thought he could of forwarded the email on to the American folks for you.......
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Post: # 87767Post |3lack|ce
Thu Oct 04, 2007 6:56 pm

Ok, so here we go...

I get a webresponse saying "Please email us with the issue."

So I email.

No word as of 2 seconds ago.

I've decided to eff up their Friday - so they have until 8am my time tomorrow to fix it or I make a phonecall armed with a REALLY pissed off attitude and an attorney listening in.
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Post: # 87770Post Egaladeist
Thu Oct 04, 2007 7:05 pm

or is it really that Mr. Thompson is so inept at his position that he must pass the buck?

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Post: # 87978Post Derbz
Sun Oct 07, 2007 8:45 pm

So, whats the verdict?? How is this game???


For the longest time I have been an advocate of multiplayer games. Ever since Doom2, I have held the opinion that all you do in singleplayer games is find the best way to exploit the computers AI.


After an almost 3 year "career" of world of warcraft, I have come to appreciate the single player games of today. Not only has gaming technology(both the engine and ai aspects) come a long way since the days of doom. But singleplayer games can be started, stopped, and saved whenever you want.


I read an interesting article in the Melbournes Age newspaper, about games of today (mmo's in particular) are designed to keep you playing. The designers come up with ideas to get you addicted rather than reward you with a proper "gaming experience".
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Sun Oct 07, 2007 10:21 pm

This is pretty OT but that's what Taz is about, right? Anyway, I have always been a fan of good single player RPGs rather than MMOs. MMOs are great in some respects, but personally, I think they fall quite far short in most. The best single player RPGs suck you in with an engaging story, lots of side plots and varied quests. Just look at Morrowind, Oblivion and the two KOTOR games. For MMOs to be more than a passing fancy with me, I need varied quests (rather than "go fetch this for me" or "kill a hundred vampire gouls"). I played WoW for a while and lost interest very quickly. Personally, I just don't think MMOs are quite there yet.
Multiplayer RTS's on the other hand are a completely different matter. I haven't played Medieval 2: Total War, and from this review, it looks like I won't bother trying. But Rome: Total War, the Battle for Middle Earth games, Warcraft II and III, the Rise of Nations series, the C&C series and others are all great examples of games that are much better enjoyed when playing with and against other players.

EDIT: Having said that about MMOs, the one game on my list to play (as soon as I can afford it) is Lord of the Rings Online: Shadows of Angmar. It looks great and it has an interesting instancing mechanism that allows players to participate in interesting quests that give the illusion of affecting the world.

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Post: # 88104Post |3lack|ce
Mon Oct 08, 2007 4:26 pm

From other's reviews I've seen that this game is pretty awesome - however...

I don't know firsthand since the damned thing won't work. After repeated heated emails and phone calls I cannot get any satisfaction out of Sega. Said software has been returned to the store where it was purchased, along with a nice, long story to the manager about why tech support can't fix the damn problem. Manager told me this wasn't the first time he'd had to refund due to this issue, and that he was
Considering pulling all Sega software and products from his shelves.
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Post: # 88170Post Derbz
Tue Oct 09, 2007 9:26 am

|3lack|ce wrote:From other's reviews I've seen that this game is pretty awesome - however...

I don't know firsthand since the damned thing won't work. After repeated heated emails and phone calls I cannot get any satisfaction out of Sega. Said software has been returned to the store where it was purchased, along with a nice, long story to the manager about why tech support can't fix the damn problem. Manager told me this wasn't the first time he'd had to refund due to this issue, and that he was
Considering pulling all Sega software and products from his shelves.
Shame you couldn't get it working, are you into medieval games ??

Total War was originally set in feudal japan in the time of the Samurai. Was large scale war and lots of fun.

I'm really into anything medieval, woulda liked to hear good things about this game.



It also hurts to hear you trashing Sega so bad!! Growing up, you either had the NES, the Gameboy and the SNES, or you had the Master System, Game Gear and Genesis. I definatly grew up a sega boy :) That crazy blue hedgehog isn't anywhere to be found nowadays.

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